A couple of weeks ago at the Dublin Va. flea market I bought one of those maid of honor # 8 skillets that is pictured in the store brand sections on this site. I agree that nothing about this looks Lodge but the heat ring breaks, but I think I am going to like it. Also some time back a lady sold me one of those Lodge oval roasters on page 232 of the red book. Size # 4. Only one of these I have seen.