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Old 01-12-2016, 10:14 PM
DSBradley DSBradley is offline
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I've been thinking about this for a while and I'm still not sure if it would work out or not but let me tell you and then you chip in. If we can all agree on some simple rules, I think we could all win.

Many of us bid on eBay because it's easy to search for exactly what you're looking for, or for the lack of iron in our area. Trouble is, what if we end up bidding against each other? I don't want to drive up a price if it's one of you I'm bidding against. I would hope you wouldn't for me either. What if there was some way to stake a claim here so as to keep "friendly fire" down to a minimum. I know that some pieces are rare enough to attract a few of us here to bid.

I was just thinking a Gentleman's Agreement (and Lady's Agreement) could be worked out. Chime in because the last thing I would want would be a rift here. Doug's vote counts as a pass or veto.

Just a thought
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Old 01-12-2016, 11:33 PM
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I would assume if you're bidding on an item, it's because you want it and not because you enjoy spitefully costing other bidders to spend more than necessary. If the former is true, and you possess some amount of self control, then you won't be bidding any higher than your budget allows. If your budget is higher than other bidders, you win; if not, one of them does. It's how eBay is supposed to work.

So, there's really no point in adding another variable-- like chivalry, or whatever you might want to call it-- to the mix. I get that there might be times when, if you knew the other person bidding on the item and that they might want it more badly than you do, that you would not want to be the fly in their ointment. But, since people apparently don't make it a habit of announcing the eBay listings they're watching-- and I'm not recommending they start-- those times are likely few and very far between. So, I don't see a need for the forum's attention to be eBay-focused in ways other than helping novice collectors not yet familiar with values to understand things like a Griswold #3 SBL skillet is not a $50 plus shipping piece.
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Old 01-12-2016, 11:36 PM
W. Hilditch W. Hilditch is offline
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I donít believe this would work. Too many variables to coordinate changing minds and decisions during a listing. Besides, if it was you and I, no hard feelings to the one who wanted it most.

I would not be a good candidate for such a group. I let an item run itís course and I decide if I really want it or not in the last 5 minutes. If I do, I snipe $500 or 3X last bid, which ever is higher, in the last 5 seconds.

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Old 01-13-2016, 02:23 AM
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OK Doug, I do see your point and is understood. Hilditch, you would win because I bid under a minute left but only a few dollars more. This might be why I lost the last couple of items that caught my eye.

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Old 01-13-2016, 06:54 AM
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I would also guess their would be a legal aspect to this. I imagine in the buyers agreement their is a collusion clause. Cant imagine ebay would be super happy to see people doing this.
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Old 01-13-2016, 11:01 AM
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Fair warning. Do not ever attend an auction thinking that you will out bid me on something that I am bidding on. I will bring it up so high and dump it on you or you will learn real fast that I will get what I want. That is what is fun about auctions.
There is this one auction that stands out of the many that I have attended over the years, not for just cast iron but also antiques in general. The bidding on this lot got to a point that all the other bidders dropped out but this one antique dealer that was still bidding, but did not see who she was bidding against until it cost more than she was willing to spend and turned and saw me at the very back with my hand up. She said some less that respectful comments that made her look the AH in the room. All is I asked was are we not at an auction. Well, her face went red and she left. I saw her 6 months later and she felt so bad for the way she acted and did apologize for it. For me It was a very good day, as I made bank on what I had won and later sold.

OH, that goes for eBay also, ask the bidders on the last 3 skillets I won. It is only money that we cannot take with us, but if you bid right you can still make bank.
Also you need to remember that at auctions you just might be bidding against a collector like myself. I do have museum quality pieces in my many collections.
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Old 01-13-2016, 11:23 AM
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DSBradley, if you are bidding on one of my items on ebay I would absolutely encourage you to cross post it on CIC!
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Old 01-13-2016, 11:43 AM
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Fair warning. Do not ever attend an auction thinking that you will out bid me on something that I am bidding on. I will bring it up so high and dump it on you or you will learn real fast that I will get what I want. That is what is fun about auctions.
There is this one auction that stands out of the many that I have attended over the years, not for just cast iron but also antiques in general. The bidding on this lot got to a point that all the other bidders dropped out but this one antique dealer that was still bidding, but did not see who she was bidding against until it cost more than she was willing to spend and turned and saw me at the very back with my hand up. She said some less that respectful comments that made her look the AH in the room. All is I asked was are we not at an auction. Well, her face went red and she left. I saw her 6 months later and she felt so bad for the way she acted and did apologize for it. For me It was a very good day, as I made bank on what I had won and later sold.



OH, that goes for eBay also, ask the bidders on the last 3 skillets I won. It is only money that we cannot take with us, but if you bid right you can still make bank.
Also you need to remember that at auctions you just might be bidding against a collector like myself. I do have museum quality pieces in my many collections.

We have very different styles. When I bid I bid with the product in mind, not the person I am bidding against. In all honestly I would prefer is no one walks away mad but I understand that is part of the beast sometimes.
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Old 01-13-2016, 12:01 PM
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We have very different styles. When I bid I bid with the product in mind, not the person I am bidding against. In all honestly I would prefer is no one walks away mad but I understand that is part of the beast sometimes.
Where did say that I care who I am bidding against?
I do not care who I am bidding against, that is why I sit in the very back. I take no names. If I bid it is for one of 2 reasons, first to win and second to dump it at a high price. Yes, there are people with deeper pockets than me that have the same collector attitude. Sometimes very rare items come to market once. I have a very rare Vermont maple syrup hand soldered tin can with the original paper label, that some would laugh at what I paid for it. But the other bidder who lost it, only lost it by $5.00. It is valued at 3 times what I paid for it.
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Old 01-13-2016, 12:16 PM
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Where did say that I care who I am bidding against?
I do not care who I am bidding against, that is why I sit in the very back. I take no names. If I bid it is for one of 2 reasons, first to win and second to dump it at a high price. Yes, there are people with deeper pockets than me that have the same collector attitude. Sometimes very rare items come to market once. I have a very rare Vermont maple syrup hand soldered tin can with the original paper label, that some would laugh at what I paid for it. But the other bidder who lost it, only lost it by $5.00. It is valued at 3 times what I paid for it.
I guess I meant "dumping" things is not my style. If someone wants it for more than I value it I have no issue with them having it. Their seems to be a certain vengeance when trying to get someone to pay more for something that I just do not have. I put a number in my head at which I would pay for something and if someone number in their head is bigger than mine, so be it. I have no deisre to have someone pay more for an item than I think it is worth.
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