Wapak Indian Head

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Dan Farmer

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I got my Holy Grail today! Well... not the Erie Spider, but close. I ran into this guy last month and he told me that he had a bunch of pans in boxes, and he thought that at least one of them had an indian head on it. I finally hooked up with him today. Got it for $80! Slight wear on the logo, but still nice and clear. Can't wait to get it cleaned up!

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Some of the old cast is beautiful... i've never seen this or a spider skillet in person.

Silly question, what is the word grade in reference to? Is it WAPAK "grade" hollow ware as in reference to Wapak quality or a reference to something else?
 
RobM said:
Some of the old cast is beautiful... i've never seen this or a spider skillet in person.

Silly question, what is the word grade in reference to? Is it WAPAK "grade" hollow ware as in reference to Wapak quality or a reference to something else?
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It says "High" (or maybe just "Hi"?) on the other side of the Indian head (High Grade).

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KevinE said:
Nice! I bet that cleans up great. What size is it?
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Thanks. Its a little crusty but otherwise in very good condition. Its a #8
 
Dan Farmer said:
It says "High" (or maybe just "Hi"?) on the other side of the Indian head (High Grade).

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Thanks. Its a little crusty but otherwise in very good condition. Its a #8
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It does say "high", never noticed it before. Cool.
 
Thx Doug. I remember a reference online about a fake Wapak, someone commented that it looked like the indian was singing into a microphone.
 
RobM said:
Thx Doug. I remember a reference online about a fake Wapak, someone commented that it looked like the indian was singing into a microphone.
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This is the bottom of my fake No. 4.
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I've got a couple other real ones and the fit/finish of the real ones is much much better. They're very heavy for their size.
 
RickC said:
This is the bottom of my fake No. 4.
Indian-4-Fake-bottom,medium_large.1421224724.jpg

I've got a couple other real ones and the fit/finish of the real ones is much much better. They're very heavy for their size.
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Actually, at least from that picture... it ain't bad! The edge of the circle looks very soft in comparison, and the details of the mouth and a few other parts are weak, but it really is a pretty scary good repro from what I can see! Do you know if the fakes were made in sizes other than #4?
 
I have a few Wapak Indians in my collection and I run across a 1-2 a year at the flea markets. I have seen several fake #4s over the last few years.

I have only ever seen one other reproduction, two years ago I found a #8 with a sprue mark, the medallion was in so-so shape but the overall casting was nicely done. I am convinced this was a local project rather than an attempt to pass it off as genuine , the vendor had picked it up at an estate sale with many other CI pieces from a former metal worker. I took a pic at the time but cannot locate it.
 
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